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Male Performer Chat: Banning Fines
Created by:
virgilcircle9
4/10/16 @ 11:01am
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I would be interested in other models (performers) and guests to this situation.
A simple request for clarification from F4F. Is the apparent quotation that appears in Male Performer Chat "Respect for model of F4F = 0" in Jeff Gorgeous's theme post #19 from AkimX correct
Vis :
"Excessive Banning Penalties":
"Excessively banning customers from your room is harmful to the site. If you have banned more than 20 customers in the past 6-hours 500 points will be deducted from your score. An additional 50 points will be deducted for each customer over 20 in the past 6-hour"
If this is correct is there more to banning that has not been stated?
If it is correct could someone please explain why a model (Dylan Green) was fined 5K Boost Points for his only banning on the day (Sunday 10 April at approx 8.15am ET). In fact he reportedly " didn't ban a guy since a month ago".
If it is not correct what is the actual policy, and therefore should both models and their guests who try and support them, be made fully aware of the regulations and what can be done to support models who face awkward or malicious situations.
If it is correct, can the 5K Power Boost loss be re-instated. It is possible for mistakes to be made. Models work hard to perform to their guests requirements and attempt to please. This action for one event seems to me to be rather aggressive and punitive.
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A simple request for clarification from F4F. Is the apparent quotation that appears in Male Performer Chat "Respect for model of F4F = 0" in Jeff Gorgeous's theme post #19 from AkimX correct
Vis :
"Excessive Banning Penalties":
"Excessively banning customers from your room is harmful to the site. If you have banned more than 20 customers in the past 6-hours 500 points will be deducted from your score. An additional 50 points will be deducted for each customer over 20 in the past 6-hour"
If this is correct is there more to banning that has not been stated?
If it is correct could someone please explain why a model (Dylan Green) was fined 5K Boost Points for his only banning on the day (Sunday 10 April at approx 8.15am ET). In fact he reportedly " didn't ban a guy since a month ago".
If it is not correct what is the actual policy, and therefore should both models and their guests who try and support them, be made fully aware of the regulations and what can be done to support models who face awkward or malicious situations.
If it is correct, can the 5K Power Boost loss be re-instated. It is possible for mistakes to be made. Models work hard to perform to their guests requirements and attempt to please. This action for one event seems to me to be rather aggressive and punitive.
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Created by:
chrisdk
4/10/16 @ 1:10pm
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What strikes me most here is that Akim's presumably copied statement from official rules talks about 500 points, while Dylan mentioned 5k were deducted.
This is indeed puzzling and I hope admins will help to clarify this.
Performers have the right to ban reckless visitors who repeatedly cause a disturbance in the room.
However, as long as banning fines are not clear, performers are rather discouraged to make use of this tool and the whole atmosphere in a room has to suffer from the bad behaviour of a few or maybe only a single visitor.
... I have the feeling, that the stated rule might be, Dylan could have banned another 19 visitors without further penalties today ... just a thought Quote
This is indeed puzzling and I hope admins will help to clarify this.
Performers have the right to ban reckless visitors who repeatedly cause a disturbance in the room.
However, as long as banning fines are not clear, performers are rather discouraged to make use of this tool and the whole atmosphere in a room has to suffer from the bad behaviour of a few or maybe only a single visitor.
... I have the feeling, that the stated rule might be, Dylan could have banned another 19 visitors without further penalties today ... just a thought Quote
bad bad bad guys! ahahah ! liek i done the 5 k boost i will do double that ok lol, after a good rest i m not sad anymore about that! :D kisses! :D thank you for helping me guys! :D
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ronnie-uk
4/12/16 @ 1:06pm
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Location: London, UK
Posts: 2,381
Is the apparent quotation that appears in Male Performer Chat "Respect for model of F4F = 0" in Jeff Gorgeous's theme post #19 from AkimX correct
Vis :
"Excessive Banning Penalties":
"Excessively banning customers from your room is harmful to the site. If you have banned more than 20 customers in the past 6-hours 500 points will be deducted from your score. An additional 50 points will be deducted for each customer over 20 in the past 6-hour"
It seems to me like an actual quotation rather than an apparent quotation...
Akim is one of the most helpful performers here, and I wish more performers would contribute helpful and interesting posts that add value to the forum. Akim is a really lovely guy too, and very talented
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Vis :
"Excessive Banning Penalties":
"Excessively banning customers from your room is harmful to the site. If you have banned more than 20 customers in the past 6-hours 500 points will be deducted from your score. An additional 50 points will be deducted for each customer over 20 in the past 6-hour"
It seems to me like an actual quotation rather than an apparent quotation...
Akim is one of the most helpful performers here, and I wish more performers would contribute helpful and interesting posts that add value to the forum. Akim is a really lovely guy too, and very talented
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Created by:
virgilcircle9
4/13/16 @ 1:37am
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Location: universities of the world
Posts: 335
I agree with you ronnie, Akim is a great guy. 
. I used the word apparent so hopefully all F4F would have to do was to reply and say "This is true" But obviously they are not interested 
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Created by:
ronnie-uk
4/13/16 @ 10:20am
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Location: London, UK
Posts: 2,381
You may be lucky, Virgil, but VS (F4F) rarely post in this forum. They do answer most questions raised in the General Discussions forum (an extra perk for those who pay a monthly F4F membership fee).
In the "good old days" a number of top performers were happy to provide advice and share their experiences in this forum. These included Adam Foxx, Jake Trenton, Paul Atreides, Zac Zeek, William Haley, Dominic Prize, Jonathan Phoenix and Derek Donovan. It was a lively forum, that was always worth visiting.
That is why I like to encourage the performers who make a helpful contribution here. Topics which are just an extension of chat room banter can be fun. But not really a reason for new members and performers to visit the forum, as they can see plenty of that in the chat rooms (and on Twitter and other sites).
Just my
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In the "good old days" a number of top performers were happy to provide advice and share their experiences in this forum. These included Adam Foxx, Jake Trenton, Paul Atreides, Zac Zeek, William Haley, Dominic Prize, Jonathan Phoenix and Derek Donovan. It was a lively forum, that was always worth visiting.
That is why I like to encourage the performers who make a helpful contribution here. Topics which are just an extension of chat room banter can be fun. But not really a reason for new members and performers to visit the forum, as they can see plenty of that in the chat rooms (and on Twitter and other sites).
Just my
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guys im not sure if it will be helpful ... but theres a difference between Powerboosts and points...
When a fan gives a model 10.000 powerboosts it will increase the model level for that week in 1.000 points... 10.000 powerboots = 1.000 rank points...
so maybe the model you guys are talking about lost 500 points like the rules said... and he saw a lost of 5.000 powerboots from this rank... and maybe thats the confusion.
not sure if it still the same but I learned it like that...s....I dont remember if I ever lost points for banning, cause what i learned is that it only happens when you ban a exagerate aumount of people in short time...
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When a fan gives a model 10.000 powerboosts it will increase the model level for that week in 1.000 points... 10.000 powerboots = 1.000 rank points...
so maybe the model you guys are talking about lost 500 points like the rules said... and he saw a lost of 5.000 powerboots from this rank... and maybe thats the confusion.
not sure if it still the same but I learned it like that...s....I dont remember if I ever lost points for banning, cause what i learned is that it only happens when you ban a exagerate aumount of people in short time...
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guys im not sure if it will be helpful ... but theres a difference between Powerboosts and points...
When a fan gives a model 10.000 powerboosts it will increase the model level for that week in 1.000 points... 10.000 powerboots = 1.000 rank points...
so maybe the model you guys are talking about lost 500 points like the rules said... and he saw a lost of 5.000 powerboots from this rank... and maybe thats the confusion.
not sure if it still the same but I learned it like that...s....I dont remember if I ever lost points for banning, cause what i learned is that it only happens when you ban a exagerate aumount of people in short time...
thank youu , maybe that was the problem! :P it s past now! wish you good luck , or maybe i wish good luck to myself like your luck! haha! have fun William !
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When a fan gives a model 10.000 powerboosts it will increase the model level for that week in 1.000 points... 10.000 powerboots = 1.000 rank points...
so maybe the model you guys are talking about lost 500 points like the rules said... and he saw a lost of 5.000 powerboots from this rank... and maybe thats the confusion.
not sure if it still the same but I learned it like that...s....I dont remember if I ever lost points for banning, cause what i learned is that it only happens when you ban a exagerate aumount of people in short time...
thank youu , maybe that was the problem! :P it s past now!
wish you good luck , or maybe i wish good luck to myself like your luck! haha! have fun William !
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I would be interested in other models (performers) and guests to this situation.
A simple request for clarification from F4F. Is the apparent quotation that appears in Male Performer Chat "Respect for model of F4F = 0" in Jeff Gorgeous's theme post #19 from AkimX correct
Vis :
"Excessive Banning Penalties":
"Excessively banning customers from your room is harmful to the site. If you have banned more than 20 customers in the past 6-hours 500 points will be deducted from your score. An additional 50 points will be deducted for each customer over 20 in the past 6-hour"
If this is correct is there more to banning that has not been stated?
If it is correct could someone please explain why a model (Dylan Green) was fined 5K Boost Points for his only banning on the day (Sunday 10 April at approx 8.15am ET). In fact he reportedly " didn't ban a guy since a month ago".
If it is not correct what is the actual policy, and therefore should both models and their guests who try and support them, be made fully aware of the regulations and what can be done to support models who face awkward or malicious situations.
If it is correct, can the 5K Power Boost loss be re-instated. It is possible for mistakes to be made. Models work hard to perform to their guests requirements and attempt to please. This action for one event seems to me to be rather aggressive and punitive.
maybe reason not in bans, cuz 5k gives next "Fan Club Members. Receive 5,000 points if your Fan Club has over 10 active paying members. Free memberships which you gift to customers do not count." Maybe one of member ran out of membership time and he deduced his 5k PP
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A simple request for clarification from F4F. Is the apparent quotation that appears in Male Performer Chat "Respect for model of F4F = 0" in Jeff Gorgeous's theme post #19 from AkimX correct
Vis :
"Excessive Banning Penalties":
"Excessively banning customers from your room is harmful to the site. If you have banned more than 20 customers in the past 6-hours 500 points will be deducted from your score. An additional 50 points will be deducted for each customer over 20 in the past 6-hour"
If this is correct is there more to banning that has not been stated?
If it is correct could someone please explain why a model (Dylan Green) was fined 5K Boost Points for his only banning on the day (Sunday 10 April at approx 8.15am ET). In fact he reportedly " didn't ban a guy since a month ago".
If it is not correct what is the actual policy, and therefore should both models and their guests who try and support them, be made fully aware of the regulations and what can be done to support models who face awkward or malicious situations.
If it is correct, can the 5K Power Boost loss be re-instated. It is possible for mistakes to be made. Models work hard to perform to their guests requirements and attempt to please. This action for one event seems to me to be rather aggressive and punitive.
maybe reason not in bans, cuz 5k gives next "Fan Club Members. Receive 5,000 points if your Fan Club has over 10 active paying members. Free memberships which you gift to customers do not count." Maybe one of member ran out of membership time and he deduced his 5k PP
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most recent info if you all reffering to it, to make it more clear :
Excessive Banning Penalties
Excessively banning customers from your room is harmful to the site. If you have banned more than 20 customers in the past 6-hours 500 points will be deducted from your score. An additional 50 points will be deducted for each customer over 20 in the past 6-hours.
500 points on performer side = 5000 boost points from customer side, William mentioned it. Quote
Excessive Banning Penalties
Excessively banning customers from your room is harmful to the site. If you have banned more than 20 customers in the past 6-hours 500 points will be deducted from your score. An additional 50 points will be deducted for each customer over 20 in the past 6-hours.
500 points on performer side = 5000 boost points from customer side, William mentioned it. Quote
